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see you back here tomorrow night. greta: tonight, can you keep a secret? well, apparently senate majority leader harry reid thinks you cannot, because he's not telling you or the republicans or even members of his own party what is in that health care bill. does that worry you? well, that is exactly what senator lindsay graham is worried about. he says there's political panic in washington. what does that mean? well, we'll ask senator graham, as he joins us live. senator, political panic? what is that? and is there political panic in washington? >> there's political panic among our democratic friends. it means that you're trying to rounds up the votes and you forgot what you're voting for. you have just want to pass a bill, you really don't care what's in it. you make up a new idea every week and see fit will stick to the wall. if it doesn't, you replace it with another idea and you keep the details away from the american public and your political opponents so they can't see what you're doing. that's somebody in a panic.
greta: all right. we have the governor of nebraska coming up in a second. one of his united states senators, ben nelson, seems to be the one that everybody's eyes are on. senator harry reid really wants him, needs him. without him it's off. >> right. greta: what are the republicans doing to lure him? because you guys want him what are you doing to get him? >> the only advice i would give senator nelson is do what's best for nebraska, what's best for the country. and when you look at the polling on this bill nationwide, there's not one poll where people want this bill passed. i can only imagine the polling in nebraska. if senator nelson said let's stop, let's slow down, let's have a transparent process and start over and agree upon things with 75 votes, like doing away with pre-existing illnesses, he would be doing the country a great service. we're rushing to judgment trying to pass a bill by christmas eve and i have no idea what's in the thing. he would be doing the country a great service and the people of nebraska if he said stop, go home, come back in january and
take another shot at this thing. greta: all right. ok, so when i hear that, if i were majority leader harry reid, i'd think, ok, if he just wants to do what's "best for nebraska," i might try to buy him off. maybe the state of nebraska wants $1 million, or there's something that we don't want to close something or do something, does he bring him into the office to make it so it becomes so unattractive for him because the people of nebraska say, look, we want some of that. is that a possibility? >> no, the people in the country and nebraska look at this bill in totality. the $500 billion cuts in medicare can't be made up by opening up a hospital in nebraska. the $450 billion in tax increases that the people of nebraska will feel and will increase their premiums are not going to be made up by any project given to senator nelson. this has a national problem associated with it that will hurt americans across the board and people of nebraska across the board.
greta: explain to me, because senator bill nelson, not ben nelson, but bill nelson from the state of florida told me or told us last night that medicare is not being cut by this bill. is medicare being cut or not? >> yes, ma'am. there's $450 billion taken out of medicare over a 10-year period. money not given to doctors and hospitals. and every senior watching your program knows it's harder to find a doctor to service medicare patients than it was five years ago. imagine how hospitals and doctors will be hit if you reduce medicare by $450 billion plus. greta: how come he said that isn't happening? >> well, it is happening. i like senator bill nelson -- greta: well, is he making it up? >> i can prove to you that this bill reduces medicare payments to doctors and hospitals over a 10-year period by almost $500 billion. and if you think that doesn't affect the quality of health
care to american seniors, that's crazy. that's why this bill is going into the tank. people understand the taxes and the medicare cuts are going to diminish the quality of health care, and we need to slow down and start over, instead of jamming something through right before christmas. greta: all right. i believe that $500 billion coming out of anything is going to hurt somebody. i'm with you on that. >> yeah. greta: but why is it that senator bill nelson thinks that $500 billion isn't coming out? how can the two of you give me such different answers? >> well, let's get the bill. don't rely on me. get the fox researchers to look at this bill and see whether or not my statement that medicare payments to doctors and hospitals and other providers are t diminished over a 10-year period by almost $500 billion. you decide. those are the facts as i believe them to be. you decide. greta: well, we can't get fox research. i think we're going to have to get some thieves to break into the senate majority leaders to see what this bill is. >> i will bring you that part
of the bill. i will bring it to you and show you how it's done. i will bring that part. greta: all right. well, we've been complaining that the american people can't see this bill, that it's done -- some of it's done quite in secret. >> well, this part you can see. greta: all right, senator, good. we'll take a look at it. thank you, senator. >> thank you. greta: talk about being popular, both sides want him, both sides need him. senator ben nelson. he is a democrat and he is undecided. senator nelson's fellow cornhusker governor of nebraska has a message for senator nelson -- vote no. why? well, the governor joins us live. governor, you in fact have written a letter. i've got a copy of the letter dated today, december 16, if today is the 16th, in which you ask or tell senator ben nelson, "vote no." have you talked to him? >> i have not talked to him. again, we sent a letter. this bill is not in nebraska's
best interest. it is not in america's best interest. we need to improve our system, there's no question about that. but this has an unfunded medicaid expansion, an unfunded mandate that would cost my state, a small state, hundreds of millions of dollars, along with medicare cuts that were just mentioned, skyrocketing premiums. people are very, very concerned in my state. greta: all right. in the letter that you wrote to him, you talked about the nebraska department of health and human services' analysis that just came out with rather extraordinary -- i mean, they're big numbers. are these numbers that you think that senator ben nelson was aware of? i mean, what about these numbers? >> i think to some degree he was aware of them, because i've written him several times now. but we're close to the finish line. there's no doubt he's the 60th vote. i want him to appreciate, and i know he does, that, again, this
bill is bad news for nebraska. and senator nelson has always indicated that if the bill were bad news for nebraska, he'd vote against it. and so i hope he honors that commitment. and, again, it goes beyond the medicaid mandate. again, you've got seniors concerned. the focus of this bill should be on reducing costs. the costs of medical care, skyrocketing premiums. for example, a major insurer in our state today, blue cross blue shield of nebraska, had a news conference to indicate premiums would go up somewhere between 80% to 195%. nebraskaans can't afford that, and neither can americans. greta: when was the last time you spoke to him? it's a two-part question. and second, what are you hearing from people who are close to him? because i assume people talk in your state, politicians who are from nebraska. what are you hearing which way he's leaning tonight?
>> i haven't talked to him personally for a couple of weeks. we do run into each other at various functions, obviously, in our state. he knows my concerns. i think he's genuinely undecided right now. there is also a poll released today that showed by a margin of 67% to 26%, nebraska yans are opposed to this health care bill. slow down, get it right. there's nothing imagine cal about getting this done by -- magical about getting this done by christmas. greta: there's so much attention about the language, whether it be federally-funded abortion in any way, but the unique thing about senator ben nelson is he was a governor of your state. so he sort of brings to the job as a u.s. senator, having run a state. so he's paying attention to these numbers, don't you think? >> i think he is absolutely. senator nelson and senator johans, both of my senators, are former governors. they understand this. they've had to put a budget together, just like i have.
you can't balance the budget with this large of unfunded medicaid expansion. that's what i'm concerned about. i know he's aware of that. i know he's concerned about the abortion language. so am i. and, again, when you look at this bill in total, it's not good news. greta: why don't you just call him? i mean, i see the letter. can't you just -- you're good american guys. can't you pick up the phone and call him and tell him your views? >> i could. but, again, sometimes the best way to communicate is by letter, because i know he's busy. he's tied up in meetings. and i just want to make sure that he's aware of our concerns. so sometimes it's hard to, frankly, get a hold of him and i know it's hard to get a hold of me, given my schedule, too. greta: governor, thank you, sir. >> you're welcome. greta: well, we are live in los angeles until the top of the hour. and next, just what we don't need. bad surprises. something painful just happened that we were not expecting.
we're going to tell you all about it next, in two minutes. last night we went on "the late late show" with craig ferguson, and it was not dull. we're going to show you. plus, ambassador john bolton is back because there are new developments in pakistan. one of the big stars of avatar is steven lang and breaking news as it happens. more live from l.a. next.
greta: sometimes you just don't want to be surprised, and this is one of those times. in the week ending december 12, the number of people filing for unemployment benefits unexpectedly. 480,000 people filed jobless claims. most analysts believe that number to fall, but what happened? how bad is this? joining us live is the senior economic writer for the "wall street journal" editorial page. steve, 7,000 increase, those of
bad numbers. why did everyone think we were going to go in the other direction? >> great to be with you, greta. by the way, i can't resist telling you. you're not going to believe this, but i was in appleton, wisconsin, this morning and gave a speech. they practically gave me the keys to the city just because i know you. they love you there. and they hate the health care bill in appleton. greta: well, i'm glad you were in appleton. i wish i would have known you were there, i would have given you tips on where to go. >> on this jobs numbers, it is really disappointing. we had positive job numbers a couple of weeks ago when the monthly unemployment numbers came out and we saw a reduction in the unemployment rate to 150%. a lot of people, including the president, said we passed the hump. now we're going to see strong job growth over the next few months and that hasn't happened. this is just one week's worth of data, but 7,000 lost jobs means we're losing jobs, we're not gaining them. when you include people who don't -- who are what we call discouraged workers, we've got
virtually an 18% unemployment rate in this country. that's just not acceptable. greta: how do you explain at least we sort of crept down a little bit from november from 10.2% unemployment to 10% now. wouldn't you have thought we'd be creeping downward a little bit? >> yes. greta: or is that a sign that we might be headed up a little bit? >> that's why everybody is so disappointed, because everybody did think, including myself, that now we were going to see a gradual decline in the unemployment rate and we're going to see some positive job growth, remember, greta, we haven't had positive job growth in virtually a year now, an we've lost jobs every month. now, we were losing jobs at a slower pace, but we haven't gained jobs in a long time. i think what this number indicates is that we're still in a jobless recovery. and you and i agree it's not a recovery. >> greta: how is that a recovery? >> right, it's not. i'm sorry, go ahead. greta: i guess in this instance, too, at this time of the year, people, you would
expect, would be buying more retail, so there would be at least generating more jobs if there's consumer interest out there. but the consumer must not be hitting the stores. >> well, it's hard to -- this is the conundrum of this economy. people are afraid. they're worried about the future of the economy. people don't have jobs, they can't go out and spend. and that's why i've always said getting people back to work should be priority number one. now, congress just passed another -- the house passed a $75 billion additional stimulus bill yesterday. i think that's a very ill-advised policy. they haven't even spent all of the stimulus money that they approved back in february. now they want another stimulus bill on top of that. i think we've got to start worrying about the debt, about these huge deficits. they have to pass a huge debt extension bill because of all the borrowing that we're doing. i think that's having a very negative effect on people's psychology about where this economy is headed. greta: and that, of course, is indeed very grim. steve, as always, thank you.
and glad you had a good morning in appleton. >> it's a great place. thanks, greta. greta: up next, family trips overseas. rooms stocked with liquor. posh hotels, visits to spas. sound pretty nice? who paid? check your mirror. yes, we report, you decide. we're going to tell you all about it. and the dynamic duo, president obama and governor sarah palin. the pair gets more alike every single day. have you heard the latest about the president and the governor? wait for our report. more live from l.a. that's next.
hotel rooms stocked with liquor and food? maybe you can't afford it, but you paid for it. the "wall street journal" has a new report about congressional trips overseas and how much of your money is being spent. joining us live is john, the washington bureau chief for the "wall street journal." john, so what happened on this posh -- i'm not calling it posh, but what happened on this trip? >> well, this is a story by bernie mullins and t.w. farnham in our paper. this basically recounts a recent congressional trip overseas. and there are a lot of them. mind you, greta, a lot of these are places like iraq and afghanistan. they're meant to help congress people understand the world and understand how america's money is being spent abroad. but as you can imagine, some of these are also kind of part vacation, it seems. they bring along spouses, they, as you points out, go to nice hotels, they go out for nice dinners and they do a lot of sightseeing and gift-buying
along the way. greta: well, you know, a lot of these are, as you mentioned, to afghanistan and iraq, and those are profoundly important, even to countries where we might want to talk about trade and increased trade with the united states. but this one that your paper writes about today, i looked to see what the purpose was about. this was a trip to scotland. and the purpose is the opportunity to learn firsthand the views and concerns that other countries have over the key security issues of the day. for some reason, i really don't think scotland's in deep trouble in that area. it's like they don't seem to be faking a big fuss. many of these other western european countries are trading arms or threatening sanctions or whatever. but why scotland for that? >> you're not willing to pay for this trip? is that the case? greta: we already did. we already did. >> yeah, that's true, you did, you did. nato sort of -- it's basically a group of people who get together to talk about security issues. it sounds -- it's like the nato parliamentary meeting. sounds like it's associated
with nato, but it really is not. it's kinds of a talking fest on security issues and allows leaders of various countries to get together and to meet each other. it does feel a little softer than some of the kind of key trips that congress people make. and it's in scotland, which is a really nice place to go to. and in this case, tennessee democrat john tanner was leading the trip. there were 12 members of congress. many brought their wives. there were aides along. and it's not just the air force planes or the planes that the air force flies for the congress people that cost a lot of money. it's the hotels, it's the meals, and it's all of the ancillary costs. it's having military aides pick up your luggage and drive you to the airport and have all the advance available for this huge crowd that's traveling around scotland. greta: all right. they pay the way for the spouses? the taxpayers aren't picking up that freight, right? >> well, if you're flying commercial, the congress people
will pick up the fee for their spouse. but the air force has a small fleet of planes that is used for codels, to fly congress people abroad. and if there is space available, then spouses fly for free. so if you count it as kind of a seat that would have gone otherwise unused, it's not all that bad of an issue. there are a lot of other ancillary costs, though, that go into this, including transportation once you get there. greta: and, of course, what size plane -- and i don't know this, but if they had to get a bigger plane, then, of course, they have more spare seats. but that's only a question, and i certainly don't know that to be a fact at all. john, thank you. >> you bet. greta: up next, ingrates? maybe. we sure give them loads of cash. many of them just hate our gullets. there is news don't out of pakistan where things are getting worse and getting ugly. and, later, a blowup. if you thought the health care
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] greta: disturbing news tonight out of pakistan. according to "the new york times," american officials in pakistan say they're being harassed by parts of the pakistani military and intelligence services. the harassment includes the refusal to extend visas for more than 100,000 officials and diplomatic vehicles in major cities. why is this going on? we send pakistan huge amounts of aid. we need them to fight al qaeda and the taliban. what do we do now? joining us now is ambassador john bolton.
before we even get to this issue, the news in the last 24 hours about the pakistani supreme court essentially saying that the grant of immunity or amnesty to the current president of pakistan and others was unconstitutional. is it likely that the president will be tried for corruption? and how will that destabilize an already unstable government? >> his immunity holds as long as he's in office i'm when people become former office holders or who are on this list, including, for example, the defense minister of pakistan, who are subject to being tried right now. i actually think the two events, the supreme court decision, stripping immunity and this evidence of anti- americanism in parts of the pakistani military are tied together. and i think what they both signify is a continuing weakening of zardari's position, which is bad news for us and bad news for the continuing fight against terrorism. greta: you mentioned the
defense minister claimed that he was on his way to china actually at the airport in islamabad to go to china, and that he was not allowed to board a pakistani air flight to go to china because of this decision. they won't even allow him to leave the country. that doesn't sound particularly good. >> no. and i think what's going on here is the continuing instability that, in effect, the u.s. helped bring on by pushing former president musharraf out of power a couple of years ago, trying to force pakistan into elections. i think the u.s. focus going forward has to be to continue to press the pakistani military to take the fight against the taliban and al qaeda forward, and also to try and influence -- and this is difficult, i acknowledge -- but to try and influence personnel and personnel decisions within the pakistani military to favor a
pro-american, anti-radical islamist line. we've allowed a lot of time to go by without enough education of pakistani officers in the united states, and i think you can see at the lower levels and some at the higher levels are decidedly anti-american. i think that's what this harassment and denial of visas in part is all about. greta: well, we were there just a short time ago, and what was stunning, just after the united states announced $7.5 billion in aid to this country and the newspapers and the country and everyone was complaining saying horrible things about the united states, saying that we had tied strings to their money. the level of hot tilt -- and i haven't been in every country in the world -- but you could almost feel the hostility against an american in a city that was one of their safest cities. so it's astounding how hostile we witnessed this country, many are against the united states. >> let's not forget, the united states has supported pakistan
over many years during the cold war and in tilting more toward pakistan and against india in many conflicts. so this anti-americanism is a consequence, it's an evidence of the growth of radical islamism. the funding of radicals over a large number of years. we are really in a race against time inside pakistan. our ability to influence events is not great. but we've got to continue to do it to make sure that the government is not further destabilized, fall into the hands of radical islamists and see that large arsenal of nuclear weapons potentially deliverable to terrorists around the world. greta: but it's almost as though we're caught between a rock and a hard place in pakistan, because they seem so ungrateful about this $7.5 billion. so the tendency -- my first thought is we won't give it to you, we'll take it back. but if we do that, then a government that is very unstable is going to fail and it's going
to go to the islamist extremists. meanwhile, india next door is saying, you give $7.5 billion to them and they're breeding terrorists. you don't give it us, and we're not doing it, and they hate pakistan. sort that out for me. >> actually, one of the accomplishments the bush administration doesn't get a lot of credit for -- and i think secretary powell deserves a lot of the credit that should be due -- is we now have better relations with pakistan and india combined. i think that at any point since the two countries became independent from britain, before it's been a zero-sum game, down with indy and up with pakistan. we're doing better with both. when it comes to pakistan, you've got to grit your teeth, you've got to keep your eye on our national security objective, which is making sure that country's nuclear weapons don't fall into the hands of pakistani taliban and al qaeda, and you've got to play a long and determined game to move the
military and civil society, too, away from islamism and toward a recognition that they've got a place in the broader world. that's not easy. it's the source of enormous frustration. but, again, it's something we just have to have determination to continue. we've been hot and cold with pakistan over the years. we've got to bear down now, because we are right at the cusp of this issue. we could lose pakistan in a relatively short period of time. and that's just not one more country that radicals will take over, it's a country with a substantial stock of nuclear weapons that can come back to bite us all over the world. greta: ambassador, thank you, sir. >> thank you. greta: ok. is he a suspect or isn't he? there is news tonight about a missing mother of two in utah and her husband, whose strange behavior has raised eyebrows across the country. susan powell was reported missing december 7. her husband, joshua, says he last saw her the night before,
just before he took his two young boys on a midnight camping trip. well, there's news tonight. police say the couple's 4-year- old son confirms the camping trip happened. also, police just completed a second search of the couple's home and so far have only called joshua a person of interest. a spokesperson for susan's family say they are saddened, but not surprised. >> the fact that joshua has been named a person of interest in this case deeply saddens the family, but it is not a surprise, given the events and his reactions to them in the past week. we know that susan is an excellent mother and would not have tolerated her children being taken out of the home after midnight to go camping in dangerously cold conditions. greta: "on the record" is on the ground in utah. the producer, justin wells, followed the trail that josh gentleman powell says he took when he went camping. >> "on the recoréz#is on the ground right now.
we are two hours outside of salt lake city. this is the route that the husband of susan powell would have taken if he came here to go camping with his 2 and 4- year-old. now, he says that he left at about midnight. it's the last time he saw his wife. and then he came down here. it's two hours to get to this point. when we hit the end of highway 199, which stretches here, there's a sign that says "state maintenance of the roads has ended." that's because when you get to the pony express route in 10 miles and continue on to simpson springs campground, where he said he was, the roads are not maintained during the winter. it's luck of the draw. many times it is not passable. just looking at the road here, we've been driving down it, slipping and sliding. there's snow. there's ice. there's gravel. it's pretty rough driving conditions. and it was much, much worse. it only became passable, we're told, on thursday, when police were finally able to get down here to investigate the alibi. we're investigating it ourselves, and from what we're hearing, the roads were much, much worse. they're not maintained in the
winter. and to bring a 2 and 4-year-old down the road to go camping in an area that was snowed in, according to weather reports, seems unlikely. and that is why police are focusing on the husband at this time, because they don't buy his alibi. greta: we'll be following this story and bring you the very latest as we get it. up next, we are next door to hollywood, live in los angeles, california. and tonight, who else? a big star of a sure to be blockbuster movie. actor steven lang, star of "avatar." now, everyone has waited for this movie. it hits theaters literally in minutes. steven lang gives you the inside story next. plus, last night "on the record" was on pretty late, very late. i took a trip to "the late late show" with craig ferguson. check it out in minutes. sfx:racking of a taillight.
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>> president obama arrived in copenhagen about an hour from now for the u.n. climate conference. he departed andrews air force base thursday night. hillary clinton is already in denmark. she announced the u.s. will help support a $100 billion annual fund to help poor nations fight global warming. fox is will carry the president's speech live at 4:00 a.m. eastern time. a developing story of phoenix, ariz., where a police officer is fighting for his life. he was setting out spike strips to stop a high-speed chase. the vehicle was traveling at close to 80 m.p.h. when the woman struck a police officer and his cruiser. back to "on the record."
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i will not succeed. greta: midnight tonight, one of the most anticipated movies hits the theaters in minutes, literally minutes, james cameron's "avatar." it's produced by 20th century fox, which is part of the news corps family. it must be fun to see that sound bite. >> totally. >> it's a blast. >> absolutely. greta: and the movie opens literally in an hour or so. >> hopefully midnight. hopefully they're lining up now and have been for hours. we'll see how we do. greta: tell me what it's like. it must be exciting. >> well, we're sort of at the end. i'm at the end of a road that started a couple of weeks ago just in terms of promoting the movie. so we've been all over the world, all over europe, to moscow, talking to journalists, doing premieres. and last night we had the los angeles premiere and it was thrilling, just thrilling. so i'm kinds of exhausted, but
i'm really exhausted by it. >> we check ratings. so in 24 hours you check box office receipts? what do you do, look for reviews? >> well, the reviews are all coming out. and mostly they're pretty glowing for the picture. i personally will not be checking the box office. but one of my sons, who's very into the grosses, i know he'll keep me up-to-date on it. greta: expensive. this is huge. >> it cost a couple of bucks, for sure. greta: it's supposed to be the most expensive. >> i'm not exactly sure if it is, but it's way up there. you can see the money is all on the screen. greta: what's so different about this movie? i mean, what's so special about it? >> it's a really remarkable and innovative blending of storytelling with the most cutting edge cinematic wizardry possible, and it's all because jim cameron is the real -- he's a visionary filmmaker. he's, in many ways, the
leonardo of our time. he combines this superb and dense artistic vision with the mechanical know-how of an engineer. it's just this great synthesis. he's a remarkable cat. greta: you mentioned cameron before this movie, right? >> i did indeed. greta: what happened? >> 20-plus years ago i read for aliens. he was doing a picture. i read for it, and i didn't get it. but, you know, it took a while, but the chickens have come home to roost. he thought of me in connection with this picture. greta: when you picked up the script for this, did you know this is a great picture, or was it sort of a -- is it sort of fluid, sort of roll the dice, or did you know right then and there? >> no, the script is a page-turner. the story was absolutely thrilling. he's a terrific writer. so the world that he imagined he got down on paper very vividly, very specifically. i thought the role was just extraordinarily rich and fun to play.
and so when i saw it, i was stunned and i was aud, but i wasn't totally -- awed, but i wasn't totally surprised, because it was all there on the page, i thought. greta: so you read the script and you film it in different pieces, and sometimes out of sequence. odd sequence. >> sure. greta: so you don't see it until the end. >> right. i first saw it in london is where i first saw it. greta: not till then? >> i've seen it in various incarnations, at various stages, but i hadn't seen the entire thing until about a week ago, and i'm still reeling from it. groich it's bizarre when you think about it. you work so long and hard on it sand you have no idea on the ends. in my business, we have a little bit of an -- >> you want to hear something bizarre? i don't even think jim cameron had seen the entire thing up till two weeks ago, an he made it. greta: you had to have it done. if he didn't like it, you were
cooked. >> i think there were a lot of nervous executives probably. greta: so it opens don't. are you going to go see it in a theet center >> i think i'll probably sneak in somewhere at some point, yeah. maybe in new york, just to see it with an audience. because when you go to premieres, you know, you feel you are among friends. we have a vested interest in loving it. but i feel pretty confident that, you know, when you pay your money, you're going to get a lot of film for it. greta: well, it's created a lot of buzz. everybody is excited. the fact that everybody knows it's opening at midnight tonight. i wish you the best of luck and it looks like it's going to be a huge success. >> thanks. greta: thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. greta: up next, "the best of the rest." governor palin and president obama have a lot in common. wait, they do? we have the news. we'll tell you in two minutes. plus, have you seen this? senator mccain and senatorialal franken in a blowup on the senate floor. senate mccain said something
greta: you've seen our top stories, but here's "the best of the rest." aloha, governor palin! the former alaska governor just went vacationing in hawaii. you may have heard president obama and the first family are going to the aloha state for christmas. maybe the president and governor palin will be hanging out for vacation, christmas dinner, perhaps? sharing a toast? we doubt all that, and it would be impossible anyway. governor palin and her family cut their vacation short. why? well, even in hawaii, governor palin is grabbing headlines. tmz caught the governor wearing a advisor from the 2008
campaign with senator mccain's name blacked out. she says she meant no disrespect. she was trying to be incognito. apparently that didn't work. the governor said she was drawing too much attention on the island and they cut the trip short. an 11-year-old boy scout is in north carolina and living up to the phrase "scout's honor." edward myers is planting trees in a park when he spotted a purse in a creek bank. the purse was loaded with cash. $2,000. not giving in to temptation, the boy returned the purse to its owner. the woman gave the boy $100 as a reward. the boy gave $40 to his mother and used the rest to buy a carolina panthers jersey. finally, if you have any doubt how ugly the health care debate is, watch this. >> i wonder if i could ask unanimous consent for just an additional moment. >> in my capacity as senator from minnesota, i object. >> really? oh, ok. don't take it personally.
>> i've been around here 20-some years. first time i've seen a member denied an extra minute or two to finish his remarks. and i must say that i don't know what's happening here in this body, but i think it's wrong. greta: by the end of all this, we will need health care delivered to the senate floor to stitch up the split lips and put ice on black eyes. it's getting rough in there. there you have it, "the best of the rest." next, "last call" before we turn down the lights. "on the record" goes late late night next. see what happens when i go one-on-one with craig ferguson. more live from los angeles. that's next.
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practice? >> i tried a lot of criminal cases, but i tried a lot of civil cases. i taught as a professor at georgetown for years. >> if i knew where that was, i may be annoyed. did you ever do divorce law? >> i did one. it was horrible. i hated it. >> i did one, too, and i hated it. >> oh, they're horrible. >> terrible business. >> can i tell you, it's just -- it's the meanest thing i've ever heard are divorce cases. all horrible. >> do they tell divorce cases, try and keep the argument going as long as possible, because that way you get more billable hours? do they say that, divorce lawyers? >> you know what? i think if people were really decent about divorce, is when someone comes into his or her office, you draw a circle and say here's the sum total of your assets. if you guys want to fight, i get a lot of it. if you want to work it out, i get none. take the circle and leave for a couple of days and come back and tell me. do you want me to end up with all your money, or do you want it?
and i'll bet nine out of 10 times they'll say you can have it, because they enjoy fighting. >> but you don't practice law anymore? >> i haven't tried a case since 1993. >> do you fancy that again? >> i do. >> do you miss the courtroom, the smell of criminals? [laughter] >> yeah. you know, i miss those saturday nights at the jail, standing in line to get in and -- >> me, too, but i was -- i was the one waiting for you to arrive. greta: we're behind the scenes look at our trip, go to gretawire.com. that is your "last call" and we are closing down shop. thank you for being with us tonight. we'll see you all again tomorrow. and this is where we're going to be. you'll have to guess on this one. go to the blue oval on gretawire.com and go to the gretawire forum. go to the green oval for behind-the-scenes videos. keep it here on fox news channel, the most powerful names and what he is doing n